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Undrafted Bigs | ||
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Pursuant to yesterday's discussion about whether the Kings should re-sign Ike Diogu for $4 million or more or rely on tough but undersized Jon Brockman or
bring in talented but undrafted bigs like Shawn Taggart or Josh Heytvelt, I restate that I think that the Kings should bring in Shawn and Josh and consider
signing one of them.
Shawn, a teammate of Derek Rose and Tyreke Evans, is tall, long, wirey but strong and tough, and a very good defender who can score. He might fit in a big rotation of Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson, and may beat out Jon Brockman for a spot. If not, he could back up Spencer at center.
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2009 NBA Free Agency Primer (revisited) | ||
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In case you missed it:
i wrote:I am reposting this link and quote, because I think free agency may be something the Kings may have to consider, even during this rebuilding phase. Beyond the quote (above), there is some information that might be worth perusing (such as): Which brings up to another topic to discuss, it becomes a real avenue of opportunity in the weeks ahead: 'Sign-and-trade' transactions. CBA expert Larry Coon explains the benefits of the sign-and-trade to each party thusly: "Teams benefit because it allows them to get something in return for players they would otherwise lose to free agency. Players benefit because they can get a richer contract, and/or play for a team that is over the salary cap and otherwise wouldn't be able to afford them. Unlike the new team, the player's original team can use the various Bird exceptions (as long as the player qualifies) to sign the player without regard to the cap. Also, if the player's original team has full Bird rights, they can offer the player larger raises (10.5%, as opposed to 8%) and more seasons (six, as opposed to five -- see question number 46 for more information). So sign-and-trade is a useful tool for teams that are capped-out and unable to offer players large contracts."And... Nate Robinson (Restricted) - Despite being just 5'9", Nate should probably be listed as a shooting guard. (And when you have been in the league four years and still don't have a defined position - that is usually not a good thing.) It's safe to assume Nate has played his last game for the Knicks. Expect New York to move him in a sign-and-trade rather than ink him to a long-term deal, especially after the Knicks drafted FSU sparkplug Toney Douglas with the first-round pick they bought from the Lakers. The Knicks would love to use Robinson as the bait to get a team to take on Jared Jefferies' egregious contract. Donnie Walsh had serious discussions with the Kings at last season's trade deadline where the Knicks would have sent Nate and Jeffries to the Kings in exchange for Kenny Thomas' expiring contractAnd more... |
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As mentioned in yesterday's string, I think, if the Kings are going to pursue free agents, and are penny pinching, they might consider somebody Geoff
already likes, in Drew Gooden; but then, if they can outbid the Nuggets, they might consider Chris Anderson (who I really enjoy watching these days - lots of
fight, fun and rebounding and put backs).
Realistically, I think Drew Gooden, if the Kings are willing to use their mid-level exception, would be smart to sign Drew - for a whole host of reasons, not the least of which is he is a proven player, who can play power forward and fill in at center against certain match ups. During his brief stint with the Kings, he did well.
Unrealistically, Chris Anderson would add a whole other dimension to the Kings' roster... but are they prepared to pay him?
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Ailene Voisin: New King carries hopes of a nation | ||
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Marcos Breton: Sacramento Kings hope rookie Evans is key to comeback | ||
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Kings' top pick OK with questions about past | ||
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Ailene Voisin: Across the board, Kings agree Evans is best choice | ||
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Mehmet Okur likely to opt out | ||
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Tweets | ||
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Rockets offer Brooks and Battier for Rubio - Kahn says No. | ||
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Mitch Lawrence in Sunday's Daily News reported that the Wolves turned down a deal with the Houston Rockets that
would have resulted in Aaron Brooks and Shane Battier - starters on a very good playoff team (who could have beaten the Lakers if Yao Ming was not injured) -
headed to Minnesota for Rubio.
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Projected 09-10
Evans/Udrih/Rodriguez Martin/Garcia Nocioni/Casspi/Greene Thompson/Brockman/Thomas Hawes/(undrafted player such as Josh Heytvelt) Projected 2010 and onward if Udrih and Nocioni are traded and Thomas allowed to expire. Evans/Rodriguez Martin/Garcia Casspi/Greene Thompson/Brockman Hawes/(2010 Draft) When it comes to the 2010 draft, consider the following bigs (15): Derrick Favors, Cole Aldrich, Donatas Motiejunas, Ed Davis, John Henson, Greg Monroe, Patrick Patterson, Solomon Alabi, Jan Vesely, Craig Brackins, Jerome Jordan, DeMarcus Cousins, Gani Lawal, Larry Sanders, and Andrew Ogilvy are all either power forwards, centers, or combinations projected to make next year's first round. The Kings might want to improve but not burn their own britches by overachieving and in essence sabotaging any chance for a third big, which is why pursuing undrafted players and signing them to minimums to fill out the roster makes sense to this Kings fan. Dr. KOTJ |
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Hi, Doc.
I hear what you are saying. However, not "overachieving" to have a shot at lottery picks is not something that fans who buy game or season ticket packages would be thrilled about enduring much further. The Kings will have to make games FUN and start WINNING while REBUILDING. Worried and stressed fans will want a diversion, something to take their minds off their serious problems periodically. The Kings' owners are in financial trouble and want to turn around their fortunes and may evacuate Sacramento if they do not see more fans in the seats, more ancillary sales, and a new arena agreed upon and financed by someone other than the Kings' owners. California's imploding economy is a huge factor. The entire U.S. is in dire trouble; but California is in the most trouble. The temptation to relocate to someplace not quite so economically distressed will be a temptation for the owners. That is why I wanted Ricky Rubio so much; because he, even if he struggled (though I am not convinced that would have been as big a problem as speculated) a bit at first, he would make watching games FUN, would make the other players BETTER, defend well and key and command a running offense, and put fans' butts in the arena seats and NEW Kings' brand caps, t-shirts and so forth on their bodies. Even if Tyreke Evans proves to be the unstoppable "stud" he is being hyped up as, he is going to have to LEARN to be a point guard in the NBA, for the Kings, and being something of a ball hog (not unlike John Salmons and Ron Artest) he will have to change that tendency and look for open players more. He will defend and drive to the hole, which is good; but, Tyreke is a shooting guard with some point skills, so the Kings will have to somehow transform him or utilize his strengths while finding ways to overcome his weaknesses. Being portrayed as the Kings' savior is unfair to the kid. I get the idea that Geoff thought he handled the Spanish point guard with flashy passing skills interest with Sergio Rodriguez (but Sergio, though an impressive passer, is a poor man's Ricky Rubio). As to bigs, waiting for Derrick Favors is about as valid as counting on the top 2 picks in this last draft. If he is not injured, and as as good as advertised, he will go in the top 3, and getting there is about as winnable as a crap shoot against someone with his own loaded dice. Sure, John Wall (who is a point guard with spectacular potential) and Derrick Favors (a WOW big) look like as close to sure bets as draft prospects get; but counting on getting them is a sucker's bet. Then again, next year's draft may prove to be as full of potentially good bigs as this year's draft was for point guards. So... I can appreciate looking to the next draft for bigs. However, if you look over the Kings current roster, they have some gaps to fill for THIS season, to even fill the NBA minimum.
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Very valid points i. | ||
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I can appreciate your perspective, i, and find it hard to not to agree with much of what you shared.
My thought is that the Kings should improve on their record as the team is currently assembled, although not as profoundly as some might prefer. I agree that depending on the draft can be problematic as you mentioned (see this year's #4) but I am encouraged by its depth of big men. I'm fairly confident that the Kings can "have their cake and eat it too" this year by improving their record and finding a big with their 1st rounder. A ten game improvement is a realistic goal IMHO and would allow the Kings a good shot at another young big. Ultimately, my preference is packaging Udrih and Nocioni to one of the contending teams who are willing to take on contracts for expirings. Imagine those two off the books with Thomas next year. The Kings could potentially welcome a rookie big man and a high level free agent. So realistically this Kings team has a good chance to reach .500 not next year but the year thereafter, if such a plan was in place, plus their roster would be chalk full of young, improving players given time to gel under consistent coaching (knock on wood like a hundred times!). |
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Thanks, Doc. And I agree that the Kings can BOTH improve their record this coming season AND acquire a quality big in the next draft.
Unloading Udrih's and Nocioni's contracts will not be easy, especially Udrih's. And they will have to play, and play well enough, to become attractive to teams not adverse to unwieldy contracts to fill a need. Will that happen? I do not know. If the Clippers do not want Udrih, then I am hard pressed to find a suitor. Nocioni? I like the guy and how the team improved once he arrived and played regularly. But there might be a team out there for him, which would free up the Kings to play Omri Casspi (if they do not stash him overseas this season). As I have said before, I think the Kings could get something worthwhile for Kenny Thomas' expiring contract. My concerns are not whether or not the Kings can or will improve over the next few years (with the Tyreke Evans pick and so forth) but whether or not they will do that in Sacramento (which would have been more likely with Ricky Rubio). Even if I have to move (to survive), I do not wish to see the Kings relocated. (Maybe Tyreke was the right pick for the owners and Geoff; but NOT for Sacramento.) Folks in Sacramento and surrounding areas deserve to have major league sports, arts and entertainment. That said, I do think there are quality players out there that the Kings might be able to get on the cheap who can make the team better, whether it be via trade, free agency, the undrafted or future drafts. That is why I suggest some possibilities. And I too hope Paul Westphal proves to be a keeper. Thanks for dialoguing. I appreciate it.
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I must be crazy, but I went and looked at the 2010 mock draft.
There is going to be some quality PF/Cs in next years draft, so as long as the Kings are picking top 7'ish, they should end up with another good frontline player. Question is, can the fan base take another year of sucking? I'd say get used to the idea especially if the franchise is willing to let Evans learn on the fly next season with big minutes. I say there is no reason to rush signing any mediocre free agents or even go after a guy like Hedo. Use the available cap space + KTs expiring contract at the deadline in a trade for a disgruntled star. |
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I am sure the Kings' TEAM can survive another year of bungling and learning and hopefully improving.
What I am concerned about is whether the Kings tenure in Sacramento can survive it. Without Ricky, and with Tyreke, John Wall as a King next year is an attractive notion to me, I admit; but, quite frankly, if the Kings do not stay in Sacramento after next season, I will not care one iota what they do or who they put on their roster. If at all possible, I want the Kings to continue in Sacramento (even if I do not).
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2009 free agents............
http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/sports_photos/2009_NBA_Free_Agents.html |
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I like # 9-21-27-29..
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Lakers, Kings Front Runners To Land Nate? | ||
Jun 29, 2009 3:55 PM EST
Sacramento was reportedly close to swinging a deal that involved Robinson and Jared Jeffries at February's trading deadline, but talks between the Kings and Knicks fell through. It's possible that the two teams could rekindle talks this summer. The Lakers was rumored to have inquired about Robinson after he scored 33 points at the Staples Center in December, and both Kobe Bryant and Jerry Buss gushed about the guard after the mid-December game. |
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Nate Robinson | ||
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For the Kings, bringing in an undersized shooting guard converted to a point guard, at this point, makes sense, if that guard is Nate Robinson.
Nate is somebody Geoff Petrie has had the jones for for awhile; so it is believable. Beyond that, with Tyreke Evans so prominent in the Kings' future plans, Nate makes sense. Nate is a driven Mighty Mouse who could distribute the ball, score like crazy when needed, and be FUN to watch! Color me very interested again if Geoff pulls this one off without having to give up too much or take back a too costly albatross. �
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